Cocoanut Grove

Bob Kagy · Post by **Bob Kagy** » 6 Oct 1999 11:45 am

You're putting up some very nice posts PD. Way to go.

Ray Montee (RIP) · Post by **Ray Montee (RIP)** » 6 Oct 1999 7:07 pm

Nicely explained. I always thought Jerry played that tune in E flat, but that's not important since there is an exellent chance that I might be wrong. For your information, that manner of picking and the strings described, starting at the 3rd fret, is how Jerry kicked of "STEELIN' IS HIS BUSINESS"......if I'm not mistaken?
He frequently uses those same strings as a transitional chord, for example: 5th Fret, key of F, playing a phrase up him toward the B flat position on the 10th fret, he'll often utilize that chord PLUS the 1st string to get to B flat.
Also uses the 1,3 and 5th strings to end an upbeat song: 5th fret, Key of F, picking those same strings via the 6,7, and 8th frets. Lots of music from a 6 or 7 string lap steel.

Kenny Dail · Post by **Kenny Dail** » 7 Oct 1999 10:00 pm

Hi Ray and PD...I don't want to start an argument but I believe that Jerry did Coconut Grove in E. There is a place in the chorus where Jerry does a run down from E to C sharp and uses the E on the 1st string open during this particular phrase. Haven't tried it in E flat but I'm going to get my Rick out and give it a shot today. Talk to me.

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Blake Hawkins · Post by **Blake Hawkins** » 8 Oct 1999 4:43 am

I have the Tab Jerry sells of "Cocoanut Grove" and it is in F.
Of course, it is NOT the same arrangement as
the record.

Kenny Dail · Post by **Kenny Dail** » 8 Oct 1999 11:18 am

Ray and PD, please accept my apologies. After sittin' down with my Rick and brushing up on the 'Grove', I realize that it was, in fact, 'E flat' I have been playing it in. This the 2nd mistake I've made since 1953. I guess it comes with, old age!?

Go ahead and flame me. I may be old but I'm tuff, I can take it.

LOL

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Kenny Dail · Post by **Kenny Dail** » 8 Oct 1999 11:28 am

Another interesting tune done in the same tuning is "Twilight Blues". I like this tune especially for the single note passages and the changes used in the "bridge" that requires the 1st string (E) to be played open for the 3 string clusters used for A, D, and G chord voicings. I play this one in the key of F.

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Ray Montee (RIP) · Post by **Ray Montee (RIP)** » 13 Oct 1999 2:58 pm

REFRESHING.....to say the least! For once I was RIGHT, CORRECT, ACCURATE and all of that stuff! E flat or whatever, it's nice to be able to communicate with such fine people. I'm seldom right so this has been a wonderful experience for this old f#~t! It was nice of you guys to admit you were in error. Still friends?

Kenny Dail · Post by **Kenny Dail** » 13 Oct 1999 7:30 pm

Friends...

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kd...and the beat goes on...

Lynn Kasdorf · Post by **Lynn Kasdorf** » 14 Oct 1999 7:11 am

What recording has Jerry Byrd's version of Cocoanut Grove? Where can I get it? I learned this tune from Jimmy Day's recording (whatever that record was that had all the crazy vocalists in the background).

I'd love to hear Byrd's take on it.

Blake Hawkins · Post by **Blake Hawkins** » 14 Oct 1999 12:29 pm

Lynn, It's on "Steel Guitar Favorites" on
Mercury, MG20345.
I believe Tom Bradshaw sells a copy of it on cassette. (PSG Products)